do NOT overdose ich medicine. And do realize once you treat ich that you have to do a water change a few days later. Ich medication will kill the parasite yes......but it also burns the hell out of the fishes gills....Ich comes from stress. Its like our flu. sounds like you have it under control. My lfs says it best....for all you phosban/carbon/nitrate reducing guys....If you control your phosphates with chemicals now......your going to have to control them as long as you own the tank with chemicals, because you have no other way. Set up a system that will take care of itself. If you can run a sump. DO IT. its worth its weight in gold. EVERYTHING is easier. waterchanges, dosing,filtering and nutrient removal. Im not a big freshwater guy....i have a 2.5 gallon. haha. BUT you could run Java moss to export nutrients run 4-5 T5 fixtures from walmart over it and you wont have ANY algae in your main tank.....it will all be in your sump where no one can see it. It will cut down on your need for water changes......it will cut down on chemical costs........it will cut down on maintence........it will cut down on stress. Costs a little to start up....but after that its smooth sailing.

well said blue................i mean fishboy, lol

so much so that i am starting to draw and refugium into my sump plans on the new tank, i thnk i want a hard cors sock filter in one tank and a full blown macro fuge in another

how big of a sump would you need for a 90 gallon an i'm guna need info on stuff i'm guna need to set it up would a 30 gallon sump be big enough kus i have an extra 30 gallon tank already how do you do it??

If you think about it.......how are streams and rivers cleaned...we sure as hell dont help. Plants and algae clean rivers. You could even incorporate mangroves........they grow in ANY water. There are certain plants that you can buy to put in a refuge.........that will draw HUGE amounts of nitrates and wastes out of the water. as well as phosphates. Thats what plants live on.....so the more plants you put in a refuge.........the more wastes your system could handle.....I have seen people run hydroponics in there back yards.....hook up there fish tanks to the water in the hydroponics....and then all you have to do is aerate the water in the hydropoincs tanks........and circulate it back to the aquarium.....insane set ups. The fish feed the plants.....and the plants keep the fish tank from getting ANY algae. awesomeness!

damn.......filter the water.....grow some plants......sell them for money...that sounds sick.