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fihsboy
 
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by fihsboy

hmmmmm....sounds good.....but how would it affect the economy....that would make me want to buy less...


Snowboss4492
 
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by Snowboss4492

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm, i've never heard of it but i like it.......as far as booting the economy, i think it would be great, because you are exacly right fishboy you would want to buy less {now stay with me for a moment, lol} the major difference would be you would only buy what you need, what you want or what you can afford................todays businesses live on paper, credit markets and money that isn't really there {hence the mess we are in right now} if people bought when they needed with real dollars, the value of those dollars would 100% {not the 23% they are worth now} - - -so in reality i think this tax system would eventually boot the economy into a major posative ....................and would weed out all this over inflated not real money that we are all stressing about losing now


Boss


fihsboy
 
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by fihsboy

The only problem that I see with it is......no one would vote it in. All these officials are out there to make money....and if the people dont get why they voted for something.......and disagree because of ignorance.....than they dont vote for that person again. And you cant explain your way out of something like that. I think it could probably help, but it makes me sad.....my whole fish tank would be non existent. haha. I wouldnt be able to afford it. I think if you were to tax this way.......tax evation would be a lot easier, which could be a reason its not in affect now. Weeding out the bad money would lead to a crash........wouldnt it? I mean in all honesty......theres a LOT of bad money. haha. Our governent is in trillions of dollars of debt.....I dont want to pay more taxes...and sounds weird but I dont really want to pay a lot less either. I want to do my part in keeping our country stable and sound........but at the same time.......I dont want them pissing away my money to bail out CEO's that made bad descisions. They arent going to bail me out if my business fails....Its part of the business cycle........corruption makes a business fail and so do bad descisions. I like the idea of the higher tax on products and no income tax....But if it was taken to the extreme........you would see unemployment rates skyrocket....I work at kohls........and everyone that shops there goes there because you can get a decent button up collard shirt for a man......around 20 bucks....if you get clearence 5 bucks. if you put a 25% tax on the 20 dollar shirt.....your looking at 24 bucks. still not bad....but I think it would discourage buying soo much.....that it would have a negative affect.


Snowboss4492
 
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by Snowboss4492

i see what your saying and it make s some sense, but remember this week when you pay that extra 4 bucks for a shirt that you cashed a paycheck that was all gross wages ............so in reality the 4 bucks is cheap ........ and although i agree with it in theory remember i am a business owner and i would be one of the ones to have to collect that extra 25% and pay it to the government, so my business in the beginning would suffer im sure, but i still think it would level out - - -i still like the flat tax


BUT.........as you stated, it'll never happen because we are to busy bailing out CEO's that ran there companies into the ground, how sick is it that this nation has become a place where the worse you screw up the more you are eligable for reward and assistance ..................don't even get me started on the self consuming machine we know as welfare...............lol

Boss


fihsboy
 
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by fihsboy

HA. yeah i know. I think the unemployment checks are good.........but welfare is a bit much. Its not hard to (look for a job) or say your looking for a job. My moms boy friend worked at at grocery store here in town for 28 years, he lost his job due to politics and in the market we are in.........he couldnt find a job. So he soaked up unemployment for a good 8 months........but no one would hire him.........it wasnt really his problem. He was truely trying. But some people take advantage of that.....and just sit on there ass to get paid. Thats annoying! I hate lazyness. I dont like it when people are leaches off the rest of us busting our ass. Which is why I dont like the whole redistribute the wealth thing Obama keeps saying. I dont make much.......so i would get a break.....but I still dont want him to take money away from someone to give to me..........im not a loner. I have a job.......i work for my money.........and i spend it how I want to. I dont need charity, I bust my ass for a reason.


Snowboss4492
 
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by Snowboss4492

you sound like a good guy man...............to bad there aren't more people like that............getting up every morning and going to work to get something i want makes it all worth while....................and all people are like that, thats the reason welfare is such a failure, the people that get into the system and stay there are always looking for the next handout or benifiet becasue they are never satisfied with anything because they didn't earn it .....................it's just natural

when you look at your tank and everything about it ....you did ....it makes it so much more valuable....................now if someone just handed it to you..........you'd get tired of it, or not take care of it and move on to the next thing

people have come and gone in here that had tanks handed to em............their no longer in here because they either got tired of the "free" hobby or didn't want to work at it or what ever

but those that earn it ...........wow, so impressive, young kids, workin their asses off to get a skimmer or a light ..............i have so much respect for them, and they will be great contributors to society i the long run , all because of a fish tank???? no ..............but the concepts they are learning, to work hard, do the right thing, help others, learn from mistakes etc etc etc ...................... thats what good people are made of

i wonder if Obama or McCain have had aquariums?????

Boss


fihsboy
 
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by fihsboy

Trust me, being a customer service rep for Kohls has really opened my eyes to things. I had a guy come into my work and ask if we were hiring...I told him yes and asked him about his avalibilty.....so he said well.....I dont have a job right now im on welfare but I could work from 8-12 monday through friday......... Im like ohh okay well im sorry to hear that you on welfare......is that the only availbilty you have? And he was like well yeah......I have some shows that I like to watch everyday.........and I dont work weekends. This guy was probably 40-45 years old. So I told him he could work on our truck team if he did well in the interview. Our trucks are from 6-11 in the morning. and I shit you not........he said........well thats to early.......ARE YOU SEARIOUS. I was like well sir.....why are you looking for a job? and he was like...........well im not sure if im going to keep getting my welfare or not.....so I have to look. So he comes back a week later......and he said Oh I was approved for my welfare.....so he tells me that and says........never mind about the job application, I dont need one now. WTH!!!!!!!!! I agree boss.......when you work for something.......it makes it that much more worth it. Hmm I doubt either of them have had a tank. haha. Maybe though....who knows. I do know that im kinda getting mad at this whole election. They keep finding stuff out about Obama.......all these associations.....do we really not know more about our canidates for president by now. Its somewhat ridiculous that we are still finding out about this stuff. His ties with now 7 extremists/terrorists supporters. What the crap. Im not really sure about all this. Everything just seems shady on both sides.....and I dont like it. I want someone to run for president like us....a normal guy. or girl. someone that knows what they are talking about but at the same time is living in the real world.


dawgtrain
 
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by dawgtrain

Wow !! good topic I think? THE BOSS SAID .... "These are the issues that have gotten us where we are......not the blowjob bill got, not the outfit sarah bought, not the war that congress tied Bush's hands over....those are ALL simptoms of the underlying problem of greed and corruptness in the business world "
AND I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. I will absolutly NOT vote for OBAMA there is nothing to trust about it. I wish more would do their homework and listen to the talk instead of getting brainwashed like his reverend did to him for 20 years. GOD help this country !!! politics is nasty. I also live in NY and its NUTS with taxes. Hillary needs to do something ha !!! Our gas prices in the county I live in are the highest around WHY? I want our counrty safe I think McCain is the answer for that! and Sarah Palin knows what it is to be american and go get what you need . She speaks for half the counrty with all that her family is, special needs children and unwed babies. She is strong !! As so is McCain they are my pick !! Either way GO OUT AND VOTE !


dawgtrain
 
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by dawgtrain

Hmmmmm I have found that fish people ....aquarium folk are very good people ....we were all created and grew in water...lol right? everyone is drwn to water someway or another.....at least by shower or bathing right? I love my fish hobby or whatever you call this way of being.... : )


Snowboss4492
 
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by Snowboss4492

very good Dawg.........................

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