lol....you da man DH !!!!
everythings moving forward here.......close on the loan in a couple weeks planning on breaking ground on OCT 1st and the tank room stayed in the plans...soooo, WOOHOOO...my wife is the best !!!! as soon as the house is built I'll be in my new wood shop in the basement building my in the wall tank for the tank room - - - ive been reading everything i can find on acrylic and while i'm going plywood and glass on the tank i'm gonna start working with acrylic - -maybe i can generate some income to support my habit with custom sumps and frag tanks ....lol
hows that baby ??? got a college picked out yet?????? they grow so fast man
THE SNOW BOSS
FEEDING MANDARIN DRAGONET
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dick_headers - Posts: 424
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It's all good here Boss. I'm glad you're getting close to the big project.. Wish I could help you at the set up. Supervise your redneck ass:-)
Little Claire's doing well, she sleep through the night basically every day. Thank heaven for pacifiers..lol.
Yeah, it's all good. Good to hear from you man.
Dickhead ers
Little Claire's doing well, she sleep through the night basically every day. Thank heaven for pacifiers..lol.
Yeah, it's all good. Good to hear from you man.
Dickhead ers
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Snowboss4492 - Posts: 2098
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Hey DH, I'm very happy for you ..........sounds like pappa gots the lil one undercontrol....lol {and momma too of course}
check this guys tank out...........what do you think of his lights? he's useing T-5's and has SPS corals in there.........I'm not leaning towards hards but i would like to do a clam or two in the new tank, think t-5's like that would be ok????
http://www.fishman.smugmug.com/gallery/ ... 1539_q8mFG
Boss
check this guys tank out...........what do you think of his lights? he's useing T-5's and has SPS corals in there.........I'm not leaning towards hards but i would like to do a clam or two in the new tank, think t-5's like that would be ok????
http://www.fishman.smugmug.com/gallery/ ... 1539_q8mFG
Boss
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dick_headers - Posts: 424
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Hey boss,
I didn't get into details, but it looks like a square almost shallow tank. Beautiful BTW. That's whay he's using T5's.
I think you can grow clams and/or sps with T5's, VHO's however you call it. If your tank is over 36 inches deep they will survive with T5's but halides would be better.
I think you'll be alright with the T5's. BUT! You'll never have the same shimmering effects with VHO's as you'd have with metal halides.
The T5's penetration sorta' like stops in the middle of your tank, while the MH's are goes down all the way to the bottom. If you have strong currents it is beautiful.
Almost like real sunshine hits your water.
Colorwise not so big of a different. Both lights are beautiful, and brings out the real colors well.
Again, the posted link is very nice..Good found Boss
I didn't get into details, but it looks like a square almost shallow tank. Beautiful BTW. That's whay he's using T5's.
I think you can grow clams and/or sps with T5's, VHO's however you call it. If your tank is over 36 inches deep they will survive with T5's but halides would be better.
I think you'll be alright with the T5's. BUT! You'll never have the same shimmering effects with VHO's as you'd have with metal halides.
The T5's penetration sorta' like stops in the middle of your tank, while the MH's are goes down all the way to the bottom. If you have strong currents it is beautiful.
Almost like real sunshine hits your water.
Colorwise not so big of a different. Both lights are beautiful, and brings out the real colors well.
Again, the posted link is very nice..Good found Boss
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schigara - Posts: 468
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The link is my LFS owners' home tank. Richard's tank is a cube 240g and is 24" deep. He does keep a couple Maximas in the sand and their growth is quite good.
Personally, I couldn't live without the shimmer effect of my halides but T5's, with the right ballasts and good choice and combination of bulbs can do just as good a job as halides.
36" deep tanks are a bit unusual and, at that depth, I would opt for halides for penetration. I prefer halides at any depth because I prefer the shimmer effect.
Since most tanks are 21-24" deep, lighting choice depends mainly on preference for shimmer or no shimmer.
Personally, I couldn't live without the shimmer effect of my halides but T5's, with the right ballasts and good choice and combination of bulbs can do just as good a job as halides.
36" deep tanks are a bit unusual and, at that depth, I would opt for halides for penetration. I prefer halides at any depth because I prefer the shimmer effect.
Since most tanks are 21-24" deep, lighting choice depends mainly on preference for shimmer or no shimmer.
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gazzaruk - Posts: 2
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Hi please can you explain in easy to understand ways for me to keep my psycodelic manderin from starving i have had him 2 weeks and i'm sure he's lost weight, my tank is a Juwel Rio 180 with just a internal box filter Live rocks and corels. I can hopefully buy some copenoids from ebay but how do i keep replenishing them? will they grow and breed in my tank? My manderin is only small approx 2cms long. Many thanks Marine newbie Gary
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Snowboss4492 - Posts: 2098
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Gary, you really need to set up a refugium for the pods to live in in order to keep up with the manderin, unfortunately you probably should have gotten the refugium going about 3 months before the manderin arrived - -as Shigara has informed us, manderins eat pretty much the entire time they are awake, so you will have to by him pods until you can keep a steady established reproduction system going......good luck
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Snowboss4492 - Posts: 2098
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Schigara & DH,
So if I'm understanding correctly i can run T-5's on my new tank {7 feet long 30inches deep}{26-28 inches to the sand} for "work" lights and then put a few {3-4} small MH pendants around the tank for shimmer affect and maybe even target lighting on a clam or nice coral - - -but basically letting the VHO's do most of the work? - - sound like a decent theory? i do like the idea of haveing multiple types of light to make everything look more natural
Boss
So if I'm understanding correctly i can run T-5's on my new tank {7 feet long 30inches deep}{26-28 inches to the sand} for "work" lights and then put a few {3-4} small MH pendants around the tank for shimmer affect and maybe even target lighting on a clam or nice coral - - -but basically letting the VHO's do most of the work? - - sound like a decent theory? i do like the idea of haveing multiple types of light to make everything look more natural
Boss
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Snowboss4492 - Posts: 2098
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also, when figureing out penatration of said lighting - - -does a person just figure the water depth or do you have to take into consideration the height the light fixture is above the tanks as well - - - -I.E. 24 inches of water with the light 10 inches above the tank - - -is that 34inches or 24 inches in penatration??? - -i understand that a MH hanging on the cieling isn't going to be as productive as one hanging right above the water of course, lol
Boss
Boss
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schigara - Posts: 468
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Boss,
In theory, yes. Your tank will most likely be just 18-22 front to back so that really limits the available area for lighting. Considering a T5HO needs it's own reflector to be effective and the average reflector is about 2.5-3 inches wide, this doesn't leave much room for more than 6 or 7 T5's or 2-3 T5's with enough room for Halides inbetween.
For the second question,
Penetration is directly proportional to the reflector used and it's height above the surface. Your average single ended bulb with spider reflector is most effective at around 7-12 inches above surface.
The newer Coralvue Lumenbright reflectors have been shown to be most effective at 12-18inches above surface..
With the shape of your tank, if you want shimmer, Halides will have to be the "power", with T5's for supplementation because of the physical space required for their reflectors and the path from the reflectors to the tank.
Also for argument sake, a halide 10 feet above water surface can be just as effective as one at 5 inches. It would just need a custom reflector to aim or channel it.
In theory, yes. Your tank will most likely be just 18-22 front to back so that really limits the available area for lighting. Considering a T5HO needs it's own reflector to be effective and the average reflector is about 2.5-3 inches wide, this doesn't leave much room for more than 6 or 7 T5's or 2-3 T5's with enough room for Halides inbetween.
For the second question,
Penetration is directly proportional to the reflector used and it's height above the surface. Your average single ended bulb with spider reflector is most effective at around 7-12 inches above surface.
The newer Coralvue Lumenbright reflectors have been shown to be most effective at 12-18inches above surface..
With the shape of your tank, if you want shimmer, Halides will have to be the "power", with T5's for supplementation because of the physical space required for their reflectors and the path from the reflectors to the tank.
Also for argument sake, a halide 10 feet above water surface can be just as effective as one at 5 inches. It would just need a custom reflector to aim or channel it.
