I like that Boss.....it's also like being with a man until he gets a beer gut and trading him in for six-pack abs!
I have 3 Black Neon Tetras that I don't like, I think they are boring, and they just won't die! My tank is small enough that they do take up room I could use for a fish I'd rather have. But, I'm keeping the little buggers. They didn't plan or ask to be a party to any of this, but they are living creatures 100% dependent on me. And personally, they may be "just" fish, but that last thought sticks with me.
I'm new to this, but I'm struck by how often people rave about how their fish recognize them, communicate with them, provide them with entertainment and company, and on and on. Then one day, they bag 'em up and off to the lfs, or worse. I dunno.....I already know that I prefer fish to people and this isn't helping!
Zambize
Shark question?
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littlej2455 - Posts: 193
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When i said for the sharks best interest I meant, if i realize that the tank is not large enough and does not have enough room, then i will stop and get rid of the shark and not continue on getting another one. Because obviously if one shark is not going to work, then obviously the second shark is not. That is what I meant by that. So if the first one gets to big very fast and I realize that it is not worth even trying to trade them out, then I will not do it.
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Zambize4899 - Posts: 499
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Ok, littlej, so far so good. But you *already* realize that the tank will not be large enough and will not have room, therefore with your promising logic, you would stop now and not get the shark. Right?
I seem to favor cichlids, but they are just a little big for my diminutive tank, by only an inch or two, but I still don't get them because it is already clear that they won't work in the long-term. I don't want to snatch them out of their long-time committed home to be plunked down in some awful, over-crowded tank with too little plants to be bought by god knows who (and that's even in good lfs'). That trauma is enough to kill many fish. It may be just me, but I feel that when I purchase a live animal that it's implied that I have the responsibility to provide the best care possible. I'm not able to kid myself into believing that, for me, returning a fish to an lfs would be an acceptable means of satisfying my wants first.
I've only returned a fish once. One of my very first fish I was given bad advice and was sold a single male Swordtail. He was insane being alone and terrorized every other fish, relentlessly. He displayed distinct signs of stress too. I tried different methods to help him adjust, but nothing worked. After choosing the best lfs around here, and after a long discussion with them, and an inspection of their Swordtail tank, I gave him to them. They put him in a tank of females and he was in bliss. My tank's been calm ever since and it was clearly in his best interest. I've since learned my responsibility to better research and not rely one salesperson's advice. If I hadn't, I'd already have a few 5" Cichlids in my little tank.... One day!
Blah, blah, blah.... LOL
Zambize
I seem to favor cichlids, but they are just a little big for my diminutive tank, by only an inch or two, but I still don't get them because it is already clear that they won't work in the long-term. I don't want to snatch them out of their long-time committed home to be plunked down in some awful, over-crowded tank with too little plants to be bought by god knows who (and that's even in good lfs'). That trauma is enough to kill many fish. It may be just me, but I feel that when I purchase a live animal that it's implied that I have the responsibility to provide the best care possible. I'm not able to kid myself into believing that, for me, returning a fish to an lfs would be an acceptable means of satisfying my wants first.
I've only returned a fish once. One of my very first fish I was given bad advice and was sold a single male Swordtail. He was insane being alone and terrorized every other fish, relentlessly. He displayed distinct signs of stress too. I tried different methods to help him adjust, but nothing worked. After choosing the best lfs around here, and after a long discussion with them, and an inspection of their Swordtail tank, I gave him to them. They put him in a tank of females and he was in bliss. My tank's been calm ever since and it was clearly in his best interest. I've since learned my responsibility to better research and not rely one salesperson's advice. If I hadn't, I'd already have a few 5" Cichlids in my little tank.... One day!
Blah, blah, blah.... LOL
Zambize
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Deltasigpony3648 - Posts: 314
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Boss,
You try that icecube on the glass trick that could get him off and the attach him to a small rock and put him in a hole where the crab could not get him
Pony out!
You try that icecube on the glass trick that could get him off and the attach him to a small rock and put him in a hole where the crab could not get him
Pony out!
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Deltasigpony3648 - Posts: 314
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how old are you... where do you live with parents, apartment, your own house... what kinda of job do you have...how much extra time do you have on your hands... think about all the tings you are better off getting a large hard plastic swimming pool in a basment
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Zambize4899 - Posts: 499
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Little said "Whose to say that I dont get a larger tank when he out grows this one?"
Well, you did. Your plan was to return him when he's "too" big. But, if you've thought it through, can do the larger tank (I agree, it would be a swimming pool), and you commit, then cool.
Zambize
Well, you did. Your plan was to return him when he's "too" big. But, if you've thought it through, can do the larger tank (I agree, it would be a swimming pool), and you commit, then cool.
Zambize
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Snowboss4492 - Posts: 2098
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wow....this has turned into a mini war.....lol.................
Pony....i haven't tried the ice yet, and I have been watching the crab for a while now and there really isn't anywhere he can't get, lol ...i guess in reality he came with the nem so he probably should have it with him ....who am i to say he can't have what he was born with {ut oh, i think i got some zambize on me, LMAO} i think when i do my weekly cleaning this saturday I'm going to put a piece of live rock under the nem and let the crab decide if he wants it or not....if he don't take it in a few days then ill do the ice cube and rock trick.....good thoughts thanks.....
Boss
Pony....i haven't tried the ice yet, and I have been watching the crab for a while now and there really isn't anywhere he can't get, lol ...i guess in reality he came with the nem so he probably should have it with him ....who am i to say he can't have what he was born with {ut oh, i think i got some zambize on me, LMAO} i think when i do my weekly cleaning this saturday I'm going to put a piece of live rock under the nem and let the crab decide if he wants it or not....if he don't take it in a few days then ill do the ice cube and rock trick.....good thoughts thanks.....
Boss
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schigara - Posts: 468
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Keeping sharks and rays should definitely fall into the category of "don't ask, don't tell"
Kinda like asking, "how many tangs can I keep in a 29g tank?"
Kinda like asking, "how many tangs can I keep in a 29g tank?"
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Zambize4899 - Posts: 499
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War? Nah. I'm a debator...maybe a master debator. Maybe that didn't come out right. LOL Remember I'm a psychotherapist so I must fully analyze everything. And I'm a therapist because I'm interested in how people think and you have to dig to really find the truth to that.
Master Z
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